The Shouty Woman

January 12, 2007

And On It Goes

Filed under: Feminism — by Lucy @ 12:50 pm

So, Ginmar and others – I bet you think you’re really clever. That’s what feminism’s all about, isn’t it – attacking a fellow feminist to the point where she considers self-harm? Just what the Suffragists were fighting for all those years ago.

Laura’s blog was one of the first I found when I began my journey into the world of online feminism. It was she and others who inspired me to blog myself, and to start blogging again when I took a break. She is a fantastic writer and a deeply committed feminist.

So, Ginmar etc, what is it you want to achieve in attacking and belittling women like Laura? When the last non radfem/ ‘pro porn’/ sex-positive/ just-a-bit-different voice has been driven out of the blogosphere, is that when the real revolution can begin? The one where men, and not women, are the targets? Because – call me stupid – I thought that was what your brand of feminism was all about. Something seems to have gone wrong somewhere.

What will it take for you to examine your own behaviour rather than that of every other fucking person on the internet? Shouldn’t the fact that the target of your hatred almost cut herself be a sign that you’ve got some serious thinking to do? Never forget that behind the cute pseudonyms and Blogger profiles are real people, with real feelings, and that what we type in this strange, insular community can have real consequences.

These latest hatefests have made something clear to me. The real dividing line isn’t between radfem and sex-pos, or pro- and anti-porn, or even between men and women. It’s between those with empathy and those without it.

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7 Comments »

  1. With you on this, Lucy, of course!
    Maybe as more of us continue to point this shit out, change will happen.
    I’m not holding my breath, tho.

    Huggies to you and your sis today also!

    Comment by Kim — January 12, 2007 @ 4:21 pm |Reply

  2. pst…”my feminism can beat up your feminism”…wanna play dodgeball?

    Comment by RenegadeEvolution — January 12, 2007 @ 5:01 pm |Reply

  3. >The real dividing line isn’t between radfem and sex-pos, or pro- and anti-porn, or even between men and women. It’s between those with empathy and those without it.>

    DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING…

    Comment by belledame222 — January 12, 2007 @ 6:48 pm |Reply

  4. amen, lucy! shout it!

    Comment by antiprincess — January 12, 2007 @ 7:31 pm |Reply

  5. Aw, thanks Kim 🙂

    Ren, I’ll play dodgeball if I can be on your side – I bet you’d be good! Me, not so much…

    Comment by Lucy — January 12, 2007 @ 7:54 pm |Reply

  6. The one where men, and not women, are the targets? Because – call me stupid – I thought that was what your brand of feminism was all about. Something seems to have gone wrong somewhere.

    Well, that’s what happens when Radical Feminism becomes The Cool Kids Club, oh, sorry, Hive, instead of a tool to fight oppression.

    Comment by Veronica — January 12, 2007 @ 9:09 pm |Reply

  7. Amen. Funny, I thought that empathy for others was at the core of the whole movement. Apparently that only applies to the proper sort of people.

    Comment by BritGirlSF — February 15, 2007 @ 2:47 am |Reply


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