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	<title>Comments on: To the &#8216;journalists&#8217; covering the Ipswich murders&#8230;</title>
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	<description>I was once called a 'shouty feminist robot' by someone I was arguing with in a comments box. I feel this sums me up, apart from the robot bit.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Goodyear</title>
		<link>http://shoutylucy.wordpress.com/2006/12/14/to-the-journalists-covering-the-ipswich-murders/#comment-951</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Goodyear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 01:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for taking a position on this - I will also be making that point in the British Medical Journal on January 13th. 

This is what I wrote to one media source:


&quot;On behalf of all women, and in particular those  in the sex trade, could you stop referring to &#039;murdered prostitutes&#039;? These were young women with families, some mother&#039;s daughters, who happened to work in the sex industry, a known high
risk workplace. Referring to them as murdered prostitutes dehumanises their real lives. Consider how you would report this if they were a hairdresser, journalist, lawyer etc?

This issue has been debated in the media this week with a number of women journalists expressing distress at the way that women who work in prostitution are referred to as if they were less than human.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for taking a position on this &#8211; I will also be making that point in the British Medical Journal on January 13th. </p>
<p>This is what I wrote to one media source:</p>
<p>&#8220;On behalf of all women, and in particular those  in the sex trade, could you stop referring to &#8216;murdered prostitutes&#8217;? These were young women with families, some mother&#8217;s daughters, who happened to work in the sex industry, a known high<br />
risk workplace. Referring to them as murdered prostitutes dehumanises their real lives. Consider how you would report this if they were a hairdresser, journalist, lawyer etc?</p>
<p>This issue has been debated in the media this week with a number of women journalists expressing distress at the way that women who work in prostitution are referred to as if they were less than human.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: incurablehippie</title>
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		<dc:creator>incurablehippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 21:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post. I got a response from an email to the BBC about calling the murdered women &#039;girls&#039;. Have put it up &lt;a href=&quot;http://incurable-hippie.blogspot.com/2006/12/result_27.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I got a response from an email to the BBC about calling the murdered women &#8216;girls&#8217;. Have put it up <a href="http://incurable-hippie.blogspot.com/2006/12/result_27.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Cascadia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Cascadia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s always an opportunity to sell advertising space next to the murdered women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s always an opportunity to sell advertising space next to the murdered women.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria Marinelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria Marinelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 08:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on. 

Though one thing that&#039;s fascinating to me - being in the U.S. - is that &lt;em&gt;our&lt;/em&gt; media is going nuts to cover this story (albeit in all the same biased, ridiculous ways you&#039;ve identified above), as if we didn&#039;t have active cases of unsolved serial murders of prostituted women right here!  Which, of course, we do.

See, for example, this article: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/ripper-story-not-in-the-us/2006/12/15/1166162320059.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; Ripper story? Not in the U.S.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on. </p>
<p>Though one thing that&#8217;s fascinating to me &#8211; being in the U.S. &#8211; is that <em>our</em> media is going nuts to cover this story (albeit in all the same biased, ridiculous ways you&#8217;ve identified above), as if we didn&#8217;t have active cases of unsolved serial murders of prostituted women right here!  Which, of course, we do.</p>
<p>See, for example, this article: <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/ripper-story-not-in-the-us/2006/12/15/1166162320059.html" rel="nofollow"> Ripper story? Not in the U.S.</a></p>
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		<title>By: puddlejumper</title>
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		<dc:creator>puddlejumper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with all your complaints.  

But have been heartened by the fact that many of the mainstream media have picked up on the very issues you are addressing.  (not the tabloids unfortunately, but we can live in hope).  Good example is the Guardian. http://www.guardian.co.uk/suffolkmurders/story/0,,1970938,00.html

Watching BBC this morning, they were covering the angle that apparently the local community are &quot;very sympathetic&quot; towards the women.  What struck me most about this was that a serious news program could be so surprised by this.  Like you say, five women have died.  It would take a pretty callous person not to feel sympathy.

I actually think the media sell a lot of us short.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with all your complaints.  </p>
<p>But have been heartened by the fact that many of the mainstream media have picked up on the very issues you are addressing.  (not the tabloids unfortunately, but we can live in hope).  Good example is the Guardian. <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/suffolkmurders/story/0,,1970938,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/suffolkmurders/story/0,,1970938,00.html</a></p>
<p>Watching BBC this morning, they were covering the angle that apparently the local community are &#8220;very sympathetic&#8221; towards the women.  What struck me most about this was that a serious news program could be so surprised by this.  Like you say, five women have died.  It would take a pretty callous person not to feel sympathy.</p>
<p>I actually think the media sell a lot of us short.</p>
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		<title>By: JaneDoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>JaneDoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 06:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really horrible, isn&#039;t it? I can&#039;t help thinking what if that were my friend, my sister... Horrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really horrible, isn&#8217;t it? I can&#8217;t help thinking what if that were my friend, my sister&#8230; Horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 09:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: witchy-woo</title>
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		<dc:creator>witchy-woo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t help but agree with you, Lucy.</description>
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		<title>By: laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent points, Lucy.  And hoorah for feminist writers in The Guardian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points, Lucy.  And hoorah for feminist writers in The Guardian.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, hear!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear!!!</p>
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